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[高端讨论] 【Hot Topic】Hey, are you under a great pressure?

本主题由 Kevin_von 于 2008-8-25 09:31 分类
morning eveybody!
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啥也别想,认真工作.尽量少犯点错误....

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The typhoon died with a rainstorm this morning, when I was looking through the window into the sky. I knew it was the last struggle of the typhoon. Though it died, it had enjoyed its freedom these days. It brought power failure to us, and a rain lasting almost two days. It must be written into the typhoon history. Go on typhoon Phoenix, don't be regretted, don't look back, and do enjoy your wonderful and dying life!
To fight like a warrior.

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ah, i am just back from an interview. : m/ v# [$ o+ D( E
that is a joint venture. the position i applied for is shipping clerk.
- m/ |2 e$ F* e' `. Qi don't know the result. hehe, hope me good luck
我爱你,但和你没关系...

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原帖由 cola850326 于 2008-7-30 14:04 发表 0 L- o! z: }0 g0 u
ah, i am just back from an interview. 1 H. B" P9 m9 g! m5 [3 l  E) S
that is a joint venture. the position i applied for is shipping clerk.( S: Y4 K5 d" l% G5 N
i don't know the result. hehe, hope me good luck
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5 f' F1 `/ x# p: v, V3 F' VShipping clerk is not the best postion for you
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  • wushuang 魅力 +1 仰慕 2008-7-30 15:16
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woo...everyone's english is very good..
  W  w  _  m4 Z  n6 M! q" e: Mbut my english is not good..
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回123#

U will be the great one,good luck!9 E! I* Z" C4 i
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About my job,nothing to special ,nothing to say.
+ N( V  e/ r$ HI don't like stay here,just for life,kust for money.* |+ q2 N- z9 L/ L8 t, c$ N' m8 P
ha ha !

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i am under pressure...

i have been a sales assistant(my job title on the name card) for a month sharp...right now i have no customer who wants to buy our products from me...and my manager asks me everyday if there is any reply from potential customers...i am tired of saying "no" and afraid to see his face full of disappointment...i know what i need is patience...this thing has happened to everybody...but deep in my mind, i am worried...
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  • Kevin_von 精英币 +2 欢迎新朋友参加纯英文讨论。先发参与奖2个。 ... 2008-7-30 19:26

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原帖由 Kevin_von 于 2008-7-30 14:38 发表 + `' u5 Q4 d  ]9 Q: [
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Shipping clerk is not the best postion for you
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2 Q' d- s+ h1 F+ si am always trying to find the best one. but actually it is not so easy. tomorrow i have another interview.
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3 ^+ J: L3 d) m* N3 t, |. Li will go and have a try.0 G* A- x9 d& S+ q" a
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hehe, i am look forward to the best job.
我爱你,但和你没关系...

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原帖由 cola850326 于 2008-7-30 17:37 发表 9 L; \/ o% i$ X8 k2 Y

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+ B; B9 n, W. Ai am always trying to find the best one. but actually it is not so easy. tomorrow i have another interview.- ^5 I' D4 F& p6 T$ [
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i will go and have a try.
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8 B  Z& B3 }) ~' Shehe, i am look forward to the best job.
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Generally the shipping clerk is not a good postion for a candidate who is experienced , unless you're in a big joint venture enterprise , especially the company of Euro&American., }1 U& w1 U' h3 }& ?$ o
There is great difference on the enterprise culture between the foreign company and the private corporation.
8 p* w6 {4 R. oAlthough the sales' income which depends on the marketing performance is normally bigger than the one of people in charge of other proceedures,  the shipping clerk is considered as the same important and essential for the operation and development of the company. And this kind of companys often set a good strategy and policy with sustained improvement.  So the success of the sales cannot be only attributed to his or her works for the company also give them a better environment. As a result , the job title will not be a great disvantage for you when you're a shipping clerk.
4 o% X4 T1 a1 G8 ^/ @Unlike the top companies , many of the small private company whose boss and actual manager are the same person, is often improvident  on the long-range planning .
/ j, ]/ K" [# T2 }He or she may think highly of the person in financial dept. because of some reason which is known to everone.  He or she may also give a better salary to the engineer and the key technicist because the boss need their ability.  It's sure that the sales will bring him obvious orders and incomes while it seems that shipping clerk's work  is dispensable.# {! j  _5 \! W
One of the biggest reason is that many bosses don't known the actual procedure of the logistics , both in domestic and the overseas.  He or she will not has the feeling that you have saved money for him when you get a better solution via negotiation with the forwarder and he or she does not know which fee is needed and which fee is not necessary but it has occured due to the shipping's mistake.
4 K9 T2 {7 b2 Y' \) nOn the other hand , An skillful shipping may make the works smoothly but it is only the feeling of theirselves and their colleague in sales. As a result , the postion on shipping in many of companies is lower than the sales , or these staff become the subordinates of the sales .  Some boss will told the shipping that he or she will get a promotion prospect which means from the shipping to sales, if  their current works can be done well.% D: H/ N+ a; u& k2 v
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In fact , a promotion prospect for shipping should be a higher position  like shipping suppervious , shipping manager or logistics manager.
  x6 Q( _1 t- J, a& t9 JAnyway,  the shipping clerk  is not the stage for you to show talents if they're managed by the boss with strictly utilitarian behavior and  principle.) x5 s9 G8 ?5 i, ?/ [. j  A
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——以下为中文译文——; u. O. S- v) u
一般说来,船务对于经验丰富的应聘者来说,并非是一个很好的职位,除非你是在一个很大的合资企业,尤其是欧美企业里。5 K' [; V- }% _# a8 W0 s! U- m  ~, a
外企和私企在企业文化上有着很大的差距。
1 I; H6 G5 s3 t- w8 m* S) w; l虽然,正常来说,依靠业绩支持的销售人员的收入都大于那些做其他职位的人,但是,船务(在外企)被认为是对于企业的运营和发展,同等重要和必要的职位。& {  h; y4 E7 c0 \, b8 P" `
这样的公司通常会有很好的战略管理,公司制度,并且在不断的改进。所以销售人员的成功不能仅仅归功于他们自身的工作,因为公司同样给他们一个很好的环境。
# C) N$ y0 T3 l7 u8 @+ g因为以上的原因,船务职员并不因为职位本身的名称而有什么劣势。  |; w8 k$ r6 ?7 w( t
与这些顶级公司不同的是,很多小的公司,老板和实际管理者(注:指背后指挥的)通常是同一个人,则经常的在长期规划上目光短浅。他们会因为众所周知的原因重视财务部门的(注:安排亲信是常事),他们也会给工程师和技术骨干以很高的工资因为需要他们的专业技术。毫无疑问的是,销售将直接给他带来明显的订单和销售收入,而同时,船务(物流)的工作则显得是可有可无的。
' a6 I$ k/ A, C3 c! M  X0 U一个很重要的原因是因为老板们通常不了解船务工作的流程,无论是国内运输还是国际运输。他并不感觉到你给他省了钱——即使你通过协商跟货代达成了一个更好的方案。他也不知道哪些费用是应该的哪些是不应该的但因为你的工作失误却造成了。- x8 u6 M, S5 R; i7 u$ P3 f6 n, V
另外一方面,一个经验丰富的船务也许可以使工作流程更流畅,但这仅仅是他们自己或者他们的销售同事的感觉(老板是感觉不到的)。; ^$ h) i8 `) Z, h+ [8 m
因此,很多公司的船务职位通常是低于销售,或者这些员工直接成为了销售的下属。
! ^4 C1 g1 A1 E5 l7 K; A有些老板会告诉船务,如果当前岗位做得好的话,可以获得提升的机会——从船务升到销售业务。- E) `! F% a% P- W" D; D6 X5 }
而事实上,船务职位的提升应该是船务主管,船务经理,物流(运输)经理。
& _% N5 Q, j' b% s# t9 c4 l/ U6 m无论如何,如果你在那些具有功利主义想法和行为的老板手下,船务不是一个让你发挥才华的舞台. x5 I& T% p2 {5 M0 f' U

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Thanks, Kevin.
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But I will think about it carefully.
5 |# y0 x4 b& p8 g$ G; ^Thanks again!
我爱你,但和你没关系...

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原帖由 cola850326 于 2008-7-30 21:44 发表
  i( w" W/ o, ~5 J4 eThanks, Kevin.
( p5 B& _% S5 N) W2 }7 ~; j. ^2 rI know your idea. This company is a big one from Hong Kong.
+ t* O) y& N' J0 y: CBut I will think about it carefully.
% [. a, g$ h' a+ F  p. B2 D, nThanks again!
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I'm sure you will think about it carefully so I think your better chance is coming now.9 K& i7 s! J& t' s
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However, I feel a bit dissapointed that I spend almost forty minutes to write the last reply because I have forgotten many of the words and expression.
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everyone has pressure,it depends on how we view at it.it can also be drive of life

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just come back from another interview.+ `+ F0 S* ]) N/ S/ K
this time the position is project coordinator.: |$ [, d# |/ i
hehe, my job-hunting will go on~~~
我爱你,但和你没关系...

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原帖由 cola850326 于 2008-7-31 17:49 发表   t& h. `0 q# L3 Q3 j6 A; m$ D
just come back from another interview.
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hehe, my job-hunting will go on~~~8" />
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# t% {4 F& {, k8 ?3 i2 M6 F1 [1 i$ KWhat about the result ?
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to some certain, i have the same feeling with you.  It is really tired after seral hours sitting front the computer.

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